Thu 9 July 2015
Before you have children everyone will tell you about the lack of sleep, but there's nothing that can quite prepare you for the experience. Shevonne Hunt and Lucy Kippist know this feeling all too well.
We also chat to Lucy Kippist about birth trauma and the brand new Kidspot podcast: Perfect Chaos - Dispatches from the family frontline
GUEST: Lucy Kippist, Parenting and Lifestyle Editor for Kidspot